Monday, November 7, 2011

Interview: NYT's David Barboza

“In every single story I write, I’m nervous.” 
By Kwanwoo Jun                                    

     MANHATTAN, New York -- David Barboza, 45, The New York Times correspondent and bureau chief in Shanghai, has a glittering career that aspiring young journalists covet: starting as an intern and then moving up to become a staff member and correspondent at the paper.
     Barboza, based in Shanghai since 2004, won the Gerald Loeb Award for Deadline Writing in 2005 and the Nathaniel Nash Award in 2008, both prestigious awards in business reporting.
     Both hard work and luck led Barboza, formerly an aspiring journalist born in Bedford, Mass., to an internship at The New York Times. Working at the student newspaper of Boston University in 1985 and 1986, Barboza did an investigative reporting on Martin Luther King Jr.’s academic papers being damaged by the university and drew attention from The New York Times. The paper soon interviewed him for a story and then offered him an internship at its bureau in Boston from 1986 to 1987.
     Studying history at Boston University and a graduate school at Yale University, Barboza worked as a research assistant for The New York Times for six years until 1996, a year before becoming a staff writer.
     Despite a shining 21-year-long journalism career at The New York Times, Barboza still lives in tension not to make a mistake in reporting. “In every single story I write, I’m nervous,” Barboza, recently on a business trip to New York, said during an hour-long interview at 20 Cooper Square, Manhattan. “If there is one mistake, it’s bad. If there are two corrections for one story, you are going to be in a big trouble. If I have four corrections in a year, it’s a disaster.”
     Barboza said The Times was maintaining an uncompromising standard of high quality in publication. “One of the amazing things for me working at The New York Times in my first years was to go into the meetings with editors and see them beat up other editors -- not literally beat them up but in the way they asked questions,” he said.
     Barboza said he put enormous effort in his work. “My process is exhaustive research and then figuring out what this is meaning and then outlining it,” he said. “I need to do that 30 times before I write a story. So, my process is a torture. It’s a necessary torture.”
     He said he often had to abandon his busy office and find a Starbucks coffee shop nearby to better focus on a story. “If I’m doing a feature story and if I’m doing an important story, I’m at Starbucks,” he said, smiling. “Every journalist has a different process. This is mine.”
     He said he was still pursuing a goal at the paper. “My goal was The New York Times,” Barboza said. “And my goal now is to be one of the best reporters at The New York times.”
     Barboza served as the paper’s Chicago-based Midwest business correspondent for five years. His coverage included the Enron scandal. In 2004, he was posted as correspondent in Shanghai.
     In 2005, Barboza and four of his colleagues wrote about Chinese multinational company Lenovo’s acquisition of IBM’s personal computer business. His team won the 2005 Gerald Loeb Award for Deadline Writing.
     Barboza was once held hostage while reporting on a Chinese toy factory suspected of making tainted products. “As an American journalist based in China, I knew there was a good chance that at some point I’d be detained for pursuing a story,” he wrote in an article published by The New York Times on June 24, 2007, shortly after being released from a nine-hour detention by Chinese factory officials. “I just never thought I’d be held hostage by a toy factory.”
     When Barboza won the Nathaniel Nash Award in 2008, The New York Observer described him as having “captured the complexities of China today by immersing himself in its culture in a way that few foreign correspondents can.” He has a Chinese wife, Lynn Zhang.
     Responding to my follow-up e-mail question, Barboza said he was enjoying his job in Shanghai very much. “So let me just say, traveling in China, speaking Chinese and interviewing everyone from migrant workers to CEOs are a wonderful and memorable experience,” he said. “Getting to know another world, another culture is quite special.”


     Q: Would you tell me how you started work in journalism?
     A: My father had a small printer, and I got my father give me a typewriter. I typed up sports stories, and I put together a magazine when I was in junior high school and high school. That was my semi-beginning in journalism. And then when I went to a college, I started to read a lot of non-sports books. I felt, “You know sports journalism. It’s nice to follow sports, but I want to do something really important. I don’t want to just write and follow athletes.” So I started reading politics, history, et cetera. I started going to non-sports journalism. At Boston University. I was one of the editors of the student newspaper. And I did an investigative story on how my university was damaging the Martin Luther King papers. And The New York Times picked up the story. The Boston Globe did it too. A week later, The New York Times said, “We want you to be our intern. It’s unpaid. It’s working at the Boston bureau and clipping paper." I said, “Great.” So I was working at the Boston bureau during the weekend in summer.
     I read everything about The New York Times. I subscribed to The Christian Science Monitor. I became a news junkie. On the weekends at Boston University, I had a filing cabinet that had clippings of The New York Times, The Boston Globe, The Christian Science Monitor, Newsweek and Time Magazine. Every weekend, I had files on every subject. I remember meeting Richard Bernstein, a correspondent who interviewed me in Boston. He said, “I was very impressed with your investigative story on the Martin Luther King papers. I think someday you will get to The Times.” That gave me an even more motivation. Everyone doesn’t have to work at the top-tier papers or publications, but you can decide what is your goal. My goal was The New York Times. And my goal now is to be one of the best reporters at The New York Times.


     Q: Has journalism changed you?
     A: It’s made me more balanced and thoughtful and also taught me to question and wonder about the world.
     Q: Tell me about working at The New York Times?
     A: Reporters have power, but the editors and the top editors in the end make a decision. Unlike other newspapers or wire services, in which it is more lightly edited, it is going to go through a whole line of people again on the paper. If it is a front-page story, it’s going to be pretty intense. And they may just rewrite parts of it for you if you can do it or if you want to do it. You can’t say, “I disagree with you.” One of the amazing things for me working at The New York Times in my first years was to go into the meetings with editors and see them beat up other editors -- not literally beat them up but the way they ask questions. I couldn’t event think of those questions. Even though I’ve been in The New York Times for 20 years, I’m still amazed to see the quality of the editors and questions and reporters.
     I’ve written probably 1,200 stories for The New York Times in my career, maybe more. In every single story I write, I’m nervous. If there is one mistake, it’s bad. If there are two corrections for one story, you are going to be in a big trouble. If I have four corrections in a year, it’s a disaster. So, I’m nervous when the story is handled. I’m going back and trying to think if all these names are right. It’s very easy to make a mistake. So, you have to be on alert to correct every single story even after 15 to 20 years now.

    Q: Where do you usually get story ideas?
     A: Newspapers, magazines, TV shows, friends and dinners. I’ve got hundreds of story ideas. My problem is how I finish the story ideas. Once you are in journalism, you are used to picking up story ideas everywhere. Wherever you go, you are asking questions and you’re wondering about things. Story ideas are all about asking questions. Creativity in story ideas is about asking questions that people don’t generally ask.

    Q: How do you develop your story?
     A: I get a folder, interview people, call people, take notes and especially investigate a lot. Then I go through everything again, all the notes and everything. Then I start making an outline of my article -- what are the main themes, what this article is about, what I can use and what are the best quotes. Then from there, I have all the subjects. Then I start to think. Maybe, I put them in this order. Then I go to Starbucks. I have a notepad and I start writing my story by hand. If it is a breaking story, I don’t do that. If I’m doing a feature story and if I’m doing an important story, I’m at Starbucks. Every journalist has a different process. This is mine. It’s been working pretty well lately.
     Figuring out what the story is is hard. I want to be able to tell you what the story means in two sentences. If I can’t, I don’t understand the story. What is the essence of this article? Everything else will flow off of that.
We really need as a journalist to understand the structure. Even though I
have been at The New York Times for 20 years, I still take my favorite articles, clipped them and put them in my good writing files and then dissect them. This is my process. My process is exhaustive research and then figuring out what this is meaning and then outlining it. I need to do that 30 times before I write a story. So, my process is a torture. It’s a necessary torture.

    Q: In your career, what are you most proud of? Why?
     A: I’m most proud of being able to do great work for The New York Times. In college, I aspired to work at The New York Times. And now, I’m here and working as the Shanghai Bureau chief. I’m interested in education, learning and writing about the world, and that’s what I do.


     Q: Any memorable experience at work?
     A: This is too difficult to answer, kind of like asking what special has happened in my life. So let me just say traveling in China, speaking Chinese and interviewing everyone from migrant workers to CEOs are a wonderful and memorable experience. Getting to know another world, another culture is quite special.

    Q: Would you give some advice to young, aspiring journalists?
     A: Follow your passion, learn from the best, and don’t worry about jobs, just about getting better. And if you are focused and determined, good things will happen.


     Q: Have American newsrooms changed over the years? How? For better or worse?
     A: Certainly American newsrooms have changed. We basically do the same thing at The New York Times, but we contribute to multimedia, radio, television, etc. Probably newsrooms today have more women than they did two decades ago. But basically we have the same principles. Reporters are probably younger since the web and fast pace has pushed some of the older journalists to retire earlier.

    Q: What do you think of the state of American journalism today?
     A: I think the state of journalism has to reflect the state of America. Great strengths, particularly at The New York Times, The New Yorker, The Wall Street Journal, etc., but people seem to read less. And that’s troubling. I think TV journalism is generally worse than it was two decades ago, but print journalism is a mixed bag – some of it much better, some of it worse. The very best journalists today, though, are as good as we’ve ever seen.


     Q: What do you think is the future of American journalism?
     A: The future of journalism remains bright because people have a hunger for knowledge and information, they want to understand the world, they need context, they need people to help make sense of what’s going on around the world – content is king, as they say – so American journalism will thrive. But we need to be prepared to figure out new ways to deliver the news.
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Wednesday, October 5, 2011

Occupy Wall Street

By Kwanwoo Jun                                                                                                      

     LOWER MANHATTAN, New York -- Robert J. Carlson Wednesday camped out for an eighth straight day in Lower Manhattan for Occupy Wall Street, a grass-roots movement aimed at expressing anger over what critics call a financial system failure that favors the rich at the expense of ordinary citizens.
     Like hundreds of other activists eating, sleeping and rallying at Zuccotti Park on Cedar Street and Broadway, the 25-year-old from Jersey City, N.J., had his own idea for drawing the public attention: a $20 bill taped to his mouth.
     “I started with a $1, and I moved to a $5, and I moved to a $10, and I moved to a $20,” Carlson said. “Either tonight or tomorrow, I’m switching to a $50 and eventually I’ll get up to a $100. “
     Carlson wanted to raise public awareness of the three-week movement. Handwritten on the bill was “#Occupy Wall Street” in a black, bold face. A small flag was also placed behind his neck. His strategy worked well. Many passers-by approached him to talk in curiosity. Conversation started with how the bill ends up hanging in front of his mouth but soon shifted to serious discussions about the nation’s flawed financial and tax systems.
     Behind Carson were thousands of people rallying at Zuccotti Park. Soon they began marching north towards Foley Square, north of City Hall, Wednesday, in a first major demonstration in New York since police arrested about 700 protesters for obstructing traffic on Brooklyn Bridge on October 1. The crackdown actually helped draw mainstream media attention to the protest that first emerged on Wall Street on September 17.
     Carlson said he was a finance worker but refused to identify his firm. He was carrying a sign “I could lose my job for having a voice.”
     “This is not just about Wall Street,” Carlson said. “This is about some very serious economic issue that has to do with structural corruption in the way we do business.”
     Carlson said he wanted to see change. “I’d like to see accountability for people who are siphoning money and hoarding money from society and people in general for their own benefit,” he said. “My dream right now is to get communications, to get people talking and to get people thinking about ideas and solutions for these issues.”
     Carlson used up most of his annual leave in joining the movement. He returned briefly home only twice to take showers in the past eight days. He said he wished to stay at Zuccotti Park as long as he needed to.



     His experience there was enlightening. “I’ve been sleeping for 25 years.” Carlson said, “My dream started the second this movement started. This is my dream. That’s why I’m here. We are going to get communications. We are going to get people talking about ideas and solutions for these issues.”
     He wore a T-shirt when he first came to Zuccotti Park eight days ago but later changed his clothes to a shirt and tie in protest to the initial portrayal by Fox News and other conservative media of Occupy Wall Street activists as young hippies or homeless people.
     With food, medical supplies and even sleeping bags provided to protesters for free at Zuccotti Park, some homeless people and hippies mingled with Occupy Wall Street protesters. But few really cared about who they were as long as they could communicate. Some sat in a circle to debated pending issues. Some played music. Some had fun playing with a dog on a makeshift bed. Some produced a protest sign out of a recycled pizza box. Camaraderie filled the space.
     The issues all boiled down to economic injustice and income inequality.
     Bucky Sparkle, 39, and his wife Emily Sparkle, 42, were among the volunteer activists at the park. The Sparkles, together with their son Kadin, 4, traveled from Northampton, Mass., to join the rally in New York Tuesday night.
     Sparkle who runs a small business at Northampton insisted that the business influence in politics distort information flows and government policies.
     “I want to get corporate influence out of politics,” Bucky Sparkle said. “Once we start to get better information, we can have our governing bodies with people that we elect in, and our government process start to make better decisions that are more people-based. I would love democracy. That will be cool. I’ve never lived in one. I’m hoping to someday.”
     As their son was blowing soap bubbles, Sparkle held a paper sign “Corporate Lobbyists Can Change the Law for Cheap.” His wife held her own sign “Turn Off Your TV. Anti-Corporate News is Not Broadcast on Mainstream Media.” They strolled around the park and often posed for a camera for journalists.
     Economic inequality increases, Sparkle said. “In general, 99 percent is sliding down and one percent is getting stronger and stronger,” he said.
      John Samuelsen, president of Transport Workers Union Local 100, said his 35,000 New York bus and subway workers were in sync with Occupy Wall Street. “We are here for the long haul,” Samuelsen said.  “We are not happy with the way things are going in America. Working families are continuing to bear the burden of the tax cuts that have been granted to wealthy folks in New York.” He was talking about the $5 billion tax cut by the New York State government for the rich and the steep budget cut to welfare and education programs.



     The union presence added vitality to protesters in Lower Manhattan on Wednesday. Union members in identical uniforms moved in small groups. They looked more organized than other protesters. Marching protesters carried various signs and flags. Some beat drums, blew a whistle, jabbed their clenched hands in the air and rocked their bodies to the percussionist rhythms. Many passers-by stopped or slowed their way to watch the march across the street. Some onlookers pulled out cell phones to take a photo. “All day, all week, occupy Wall Street,” marchers said in a chant that filled the windy and refreshing air.
     John Harris, 56, a bicyclist from Brooklyn, stopped to see the march near City Hall and said the procession was reminiscent of what he had seen decades ago when tons of people took to the streets to oppose war.
     “It’s likely that what happens will fizzle out as time goes by, but who knows?” Harris said. “If they continue to pursue anti-capitalist agenda it’s only a matter of time before certain elements of the intelligence community are going to take a notice of it. They will start infiltrate the movement and co-opted it the way they did in the 60s and 70s.”
     Prior to the march, Carlson was thinking of whether to change his clothes -- especially his smelly, sweat-soaked and stained shirt -- after days of camping out.
     “Maybe not,” Carlson said. “I think it will be profound if I left that dirty.”
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Sunday, September 11, 2011

10 years after 9/11

By Kwanwoo Jun                                                                                        

     EAST VILLAGE, New York -- Lieutenant Joseph Curl, a lucky New York firefighter, was traveling in Mexico during the September 11 attacks a decade ago. None of his close friends and colleagues was hurt or killed. But a firehouse, where he currently works, lacked such luck.
     Curl’s firehouse on East 2nd Street lost six men at the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, and in January this year, a seventh to cancer linked to his work at Ground Zero following the attacks.
     A total of 343 firefighters perished in the search and rescue operations following the terrorist attacks.
     Marking the 10th anniversary of the September 11 attacks on Sunday, Curl, 50, was among hundreds of firefighters who attended a special mass for the fallen in the neighborhood at Most Holy Redeemer Church, a block up from his firehouse. Church bells rang at noon. A somber mood filled the church on East 3rd Street as people in dark blue uniforms trickled in to take a seat. The portraits of the seven fallen firemen and a small Stars and Stripes flag decorated a bulletin board that was neatly placed on a tripod. A wreath of flowers -- white chrysanthemum and lilies -- was laid at the bottom.
     Curl prayed for the fallen and their families. He also thanked God that luck had been on his side in the past 20 years, but he knew luck could change sides anytime.
     After all, Curl puts his life on the line every day. He can retire anytime as he is now entitled to a pension after serving 20 years of the service. But he loves his job so much that he just cannot quit in fear.
     “Never for a minute. Never for a second,” Curl said in a terse, resolute response to a question if he had ever thought of quitting the dangerous job.
     What has made him carry on is not a lack of fear but a confidence in people’s support for his job that he has always been proud of. “I remember my first day as a fireman, riding in a fire engine and pulling up next to a bus,” Curl said in a convincing tone after the 90-minute mass. “People waved at us. People loved us. I got in 1991. I felt it immediately. We have been always popular.”
      But he had no fantasy about his safety.
     “Good things and a lot of pretty horrible things happen,” said the stout and shaven-headed fireman. Danger, grief and loss seemed already a part of his daily life. “We have many anniversaries on the job,” he said. “We remember our former brothers all the time. We have announcements made everyday. Fire safety messages they tell us different tips on how to remain safe in our job.”
     During the special mass, he said he prayed for “the families who lost loved ones and the survivors who deal with the process of grief and loss” that he luckily did not have to go through in the past. “I’m blessed,” he said.
     His firehouse on East 2nd Street consists of two units -- Engine Company 28 and Ladder Company 11. Each company has a truck of its own with six firemen aboard. The “engine” unit focuses on putting out blazes while the “ladder” unit focuses on searching and rescuing those trapped by fires.
     On September 11, 2001, the “ladder” unit of the firehouse bore the brunt of the tragedy. The entire six firefighters of Ladder Company 11 – Mike Quilty, Matt Rogan, Rich Kelly, Edward Day, John Heffernan and Mike Cammarata – were buried to the debris when the South Tower collapsed over them.
     “Unfortunately, (the Ladder Company) 11 truck was not so lucky,” said Sean O’Sallivan, a captain who had been with Engine Company 9, which also joined the search and rescue operations with Ladder Company 11 at Ground Zero. He was also in the Sunday mass. “We were in the North Tower. We were going up to the 25th floor. That’s when the South Tower collapsed. So, we evacuated the building. And then the North Tower collapsed.”
     O’Sallivan said his company luckily managed to escape the collapse. “We were very fortunate that we didn’t lose anyone on that day,” he said.
     But O’Sallivan refused to elaborate further on the traumatic situation. “It’s something you can’t forget if you try. You try not to dwell on it but you can’t forget it.” He then zipped up his mouth and hurriedly left the church.
     The firehouse on East 2nd Street has seven bronze-made rectangular plaques displayed out on the wall. Each plaque carries the name of each fireman killed in “SUPREME SACRIFICE” at Ground Zero. A dark brown vase of red flowers and six small Stars and Stripes flags rested neatly below the plaques.
     “You never forget the love these people showed,” Father Sean McGillicuddy of Most Holy Redeemer Church said after the mass. “It doesn’t take away grieving, but it gives us consolation and helps us see death through God’s eyes, not just our eyes. Our neighbors and our friends among those who passed away were heroic on that day.” The Roman Catholic priest said he saw “hope” in the fallen. “These people in uniform are faithful people and hopeful people,” he added.
     On January 9 this year, Roy Chelsen, a fireman of Engine Company 28, died of bone-marrow cancer that was linked to his weeks of work at Ground Zero after the September 11 attacks. An extensive study of the health impact that toxic dust and fumes caused by the attacks may have on firefighters and other rescue workers is currently underway.
     On Friday, two days before the mass, a retired Roman Catholic priest who declined to give his full name and instead identified himself as Monsignor Donald dropped by and blessed the firehouse on his own. Reciting a breviary and draping a purple stole around his neck, he performed a 15-minute ritual of administering absolution to the dead before the firehouse.
     “At the moment of their death, because they gave up themselves, they began absolution already,” the retired priest said.
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Thursday, September 1, 2011

Hong Kong project

By Kwanwoo Jun
- Consolidation sets a new trend in the media industry. Journalists are increasingly required to be more versatile. They are under growing pressure to do the text, photo and video to tell a story. How does it work at professional, mainstream media outlets? I seriously tried out the new trend during my internship in Hong Kong. It's a meaningful experiment. There were, of course, pros and cons.

I. (VIDEO - 1:45) published by AFPTV
II. (TEXT - 591 words) published by AFP

This photo taken on August 15, 2011 shows passengers looking out of the windows of a tram running in Hong Kong. Hundreds of thousands still jump aboard the former British colony's 107-year-old system every day, even though this form of transit has all but disappeared in most major cities. AFP PHOTO / Kwanwoo JUN
Hong Kong's century-old trams roll into the future

     HONG KONG (AFP)  — They shake, rattle and roll alongside flashy cars on streets lined with skyscrapers, but Hong Kong's retro-look trams are as much part of life in the glitzy city as they were a century ago.
     Known as "ding-dings" for the sound of their bells, the iconic double-decker trams are beloved of tourists and are being celebrated in a city exhibition -- but for thousands of commuters and shoppers they remain daily workhorses.
     Office worker Eric Lee says they have a special place in his heart and he often chooses a tram over the quicker and more comfortable public-transit options in the modern metropolis, including a super-efficient subway system.
     The "ding ding" sound stopped Lee from crying when he was a child -- much to his mother's delight -- and later set him on a path to becoming a collector of tram memorabilia, some of which are on show at the exhibition.
     "When I was young, I was always crying," the 26-year-old office worker told AFP, as he settled into a seat on a trolley's upper deck, giving him clear views of Hong Kong's teeming urban landscape.
     "My mom brought me to the tram stop. When I heard the ding-ding sounds from trams, I stopped crying. I can't explain why. But it's such a good memory."
     Lee has designed a tram-shaped wrist rest for computer keyboards, published a tram photobook and turned a tramcar into a coffee shop as part of the exhibition of some 300 items displayed at Victoria Peak, a tourist attraction overlooking the city and harbour.
     Not all Hong Kong residents are quite so taken by the former British colony's 107-year-old system, the largest of its kind still in operation, which has survived despite heavy competition from cars, buses and subways.
     But at HK$2.30 (29 US cents) for a ride anywhere on the 118-stop system, which traces much of Hong Kong's old shoreline along a 30 kilometre (18-mile) track, it remains popular while trams have disappeared from most major cities.
     Apart from the price, a whiff of nostalgia blowing through the open windows in the sealed and air conditioned city also draws passengers to the teeth-chattering and often crowded rides on one of the 163 trams.
     "It has become a part of Hong Kong, and it's our heritage," said local lawmaker Pan Pey Chyou. "I just couldn't imagine what Hong Kong island would look like without the trams being there."
     British tourist Rupert Shield, 38, figured the system was "definitely worth two dollars and thirty (cents)", despite the lack of air conditioning.
     "A bit hot, a bit crowded, but you know you get a good view from up top," he said. "I'm surprised many people still use it other than tourists," he added.
     In many European and North American cities, tram systems had disappeared by the mid-20th Century as critics dismissed them as too rigid and vulnerable to delays caused by a single accident.
But now some large urban centres, including Paris and Auckland, are taking another look, as they restore, upgrade or even expand their electric-powered streetcar system, citing its environmental and cultural heritage value.
     French utility giant Veolia, which took over management of Hong Kong's tram service in 2009 and bought the system outright in 2010, is upgrading the city's system with more comfortable seating, while keeping the cars' heritage facade.
     "No one can say forever. But personally, I think that (the tram system) will stay here for a very, very long time," said legislator Pan. "I think for the next century, probably it will still be there."


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This photo taken on August 15, 2011 shows electric-powered double-decker trams in Hong Kong. Hundreds of thousands still jump aboard the former British colony's 107-year-old system every day, even though this form of transit has all but disappeared in most major cities. AFP PHOTO / Kwanwoo JUN



This photo taken on August 15, 2011 shows passengers boarding a tram running in Hong Kong. Hundreds of thousands still jump aboard the former British colony's 107-year-old system every day, even though this form of transit has all but disappeared in most major cities. AFP PHOTO / Kwanwoo JUN

This photo taken on August 15, 2011 shows the driver (L) and passengers standing on the lower deck of a tram running in Hong Kong. Hundreds of thousands still jump aboard the former British colony's 107-year-old system every day, even though this form of transit has all but disappeared in most major cities. AFP PHOTO / Kwanwoo JUN

This photo taken on August 15, 2011 shows passengers riding a tram running in Hong Kong. Hundreds of thousands still jump aboard the former British colony's 107-year-old system every day, even though this form of transit has all but disappeared in most major cities. AFP PHOTO / Kwanwoo JUN


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Sunday, August 21, 2011

Interview: AP's Charles Hanley


Untold story about AP's 2000 Pulitzer Prize
“They tried time and time again to kill the story, and ... we refused.”
By Kwanwoo Jun                                                                                     


             MANHATTAN, New York -- Charles Hanley, 63, is one of only four “special correspondents” still active in The Associated Press. Hanley and two of his colleagues (Sang-Hun Choe and Martha Mendoza) teamed up to win a Pulitzer Prize in 2000 for investigative reporting on a U.S. military massacre of civilians at No Gun Ri, South Korea, in 1950.

Eleven years after receiving the coveted journalism award, the Pulitzer Prize, Hanley talked about bits of an in-house secret behind the prize-winning story: his then-top bosses of The AP were reluctant to publish his story about the American killing of an estimated 400 unarmed Korean refugees during the early days of the 1950-1953 Korean War. Hanley said his bosses (then-President Louis D. Boccardi and then-Executive Editor William Ahearn) had tried to kill the story but failed to do so.

The U.S. military authorities had denied The AP report, but a Pentagon investigation later confirmed the civilian killing and led to then President Bill Clinton’s statement of regret in January 2001.

During the 90-minute interview at The AP building at 450 West on 33rd St. in Manhattan, Hanley’s voice was calm. His eyes often glared when he recounted the details of his former bosses trying to kill the story. The AP published the story in September 1999 after a 14-month review.

Hanley described his team’s work for the Pulitzer Prize-winning piece as “a stunning experience” of facing and overcoming the resistance from the then-leadership of The AP. Robert Port, then special assignment editor who had pushed for the publication of the story in talks with The AP leadership before he quit in 2000, said the top AP bosses feared the story would vilify U.S. servicemen. “You make these soldiers look like criminals,” Boccardi told Port at a meeting, according to Port’s contribution to “Into the Buzzsaw” published in 2002. Boccardi and Ahearn, who retired from The AP in 2003 and 2000 respectively, were not immediately available for comments.

             “They tried time and time again to kill the story, and time and time again, we refused,” Hanley said. “We kept trying to find new ways to write it to overcome whatever their problems were, and the problems were never articulated. It was simply some kind of innate fear of big-explosive stories.”

“We didn’t publish it 14 months,” Hanley said, adding his team had to go through “a very extremely bitter period” of having the story reviewed before its publication.

Hanley said he, as main writer of the story, had to modify the lead paragraph in what he described a “very soft” tone in a deal with The AP leadership in order to get the story published. The revised story starts with the following paragraph: “It was a story no one wanted to hear: Early in the Korean War, villagers said, American soldiers machine-gunned hundreds of helpless civilians under a railroad bridge in the South Korean countryside.” Hanley said its previous versions were more straightforward in describing the U.S. killing of civilians. “It didn’t damage the essence of the story,” he said. “It was either publish or not publish it, a pretty black and white thing.”

Born in Brooklyn, N.Y., on July 6, 1947, Hanley graduated from St. Bonaventure University with a B.A. in journalism. He joined The AP in 1968 in Albany, N.Y., where he became a political correspondent and bureau news editor. He moved to The AP Foreign Desk in 1976 and served as assistant and then deputy managing editor in 1987-92, after which he was named as special correspondent, a title awarded to a handful of journalists at The AP. He and his wife, Pamela Hanlon, reside in New York.

In the meantime, Hanley had the countenance of an affable uncle whom I met in my neighborhood. Wearing a white shirt and a blue tie, he had a tidy mustache. He had thinning hair, with thick hair only on the sides and back.

             When I arrived at his office on the 14th floor, he escorted me to a conference room. We passed by his “special correspondent” desk which was not special. It was just one of many other desks in the office. His desk commanded a nice and unhindered view, facing west by the window towards New Jersey across the Hudson River.



Q: Would you describe your job title, special correspondent?          

A: The title was initiated in the 1950’s by The AP for people who are considered to be senior and high-quality journalists. At the moment, there are four of us, still active. Three of them are domestic (special correspondents Linda Deutsch, David Espo and Helen O’Neil) and I’m the only international special correspondent. In most cases, we are feature writers who work on major projects. I’ve done a lot of reporting in recent years on climate change and on nuclear arms control. These are two particular areas of interest. Of course, in the past decade, I did a lot of reporting from the Iraq war and from the Afghanistan war. I look for big subjects: the subjects that cross the many boundaries and many national and international borders.

Q: Would you tell me how you started work in journalism?

A: I attended a small university, St. Bonaventure University, and obtained a degree in journalism before joining The AP in 1968. The head of the journalism department was friendly with The AP’s bureau chief in Albany, N.Y. That bureau chief was on the university’s journalism advisory board. So they had a relationship. And so my journalism department head recommended me to them, to The AP. Even today but even more back then, The AP was considered part of the top tier of American journalism. To work for The AP was considered quite a plum as we called to get that kind of job. So I ended up there actually starting off on a temporary basis.

Q: How do you find story ideas?

A: You just pick it up here and there. I can remember years ago (“As Russian Crime Grows, So Do the U.S.-Russian Police Links,” Feb. 20, 1994) I was planning to write about organized crime in Russia and their international presence outside Russia. I got hold of a specialty periodical on international criminal developments. This was a small university think tank that was interested in international crimes. Just perusing that, I saw a very brief mention of the fact that a leading Russian mafia figure had moved to the United States. I knew this hadn’t been reported anywhere. It turned out that the scholar who wrote this spotted it in a Russian publication, a publication of the Russian interior ministry. In other words, the police agency in Russia had written about this in their own in-house journal. He happened to be a scholar looking at everything. He ran across this but he made hardly anything of it. But I recognized that this was a very good story. And I got very lucky because, on that same trip, working on international crimes, I stopped by Interpol, the international police agency in France. This was really quite a coup because I was writing a feature on their computer system that they were modernizing. And it was a feature about Interpol. They demonstrated their computer and data that were in their computer. I asked them to check on this name, which they did not even recognize. What they turned up, I couldn’t take notes because it would have been suspicious for me to take notes. They just wanted me to see how the computer worked and nothing more. I had to memorize as things were scrolling up. There was a series of messages exchanged between the FBI in American and Russian law enforcement people, the Russian Interior Ministry, about this guy, his travel, etc., about what he is likely to do in America and sort of things. So I was trying to memorize as much as I could while I was watching it. This proved to be the heart of the story. I was able to report that Russians said they thought he was going to assassinate a particular crime figure in America. He traveled here and he traveled there. I had all of that information with attribution. As you know, every story is different, but one has to develop a sense of what’s new. You have to familiarize yourself enough with an area so that you know that this has not been reported.

Things often fall into your lap. Sometimes you are assigned to things by an editor. But mostly, it’s simply immersing yourself in certain areas so that you recognize stories when they pop up.

Q: You’ve earned many awards for journalism. What are you most proud of? Why?

A: Obviously, the Pulitzer Prize for investigative reporting. The No Gun Ri thing, which was just a stunning experience for any journalist.

Q: A stunning experience in terms of what?

A: The most important part of the experience was, journalistically, the resistance – we then encountered – from the leadership of The AP. (then-President Louis D. Boccardi and then-Executive Editor William Ahearn) They tried time and time again to kill the story, and time and time again, we refused.

We kept trying to find new ways to write it to overcome whatever their problems were, and the problems were never articulated. It was simply some kind of innate fear of big-explosive stories. That is really what it came down to. In the end, the way we succeeded was to get words out in the news business and elsewhere about the story that was being suppressed.

So they finally had to relent and let us publish it. But it was a very extremely bitter period that lasted a year. We didn’t publish it 14 months. We would have published it 14 months earlier.

Q: I remember watching a multimedia package for the story, too.

A: We were forbidden to talk to (The AP) television. However, I did talk to television, not directly but through a liaison in London to give them an early heads-up. I did the same thing with (The AP) multimedia. At the last minute, the managing editor sent a deputy to multimedia and told them that “We looked at your package. We want you to eliminate everything except the text story and the still photographs that go with the story.” The head of multimedia went to the managing editor and said, “No, we are going to put out this whole package. And they did and they won the multimedia award of the year from Columbia University. In effect, they won a Pulitzer with their multimedia while we were winning a Pulitzer award for reporting.

You see they were still so afraid of the story that they thought maybe it could fly below the radar, nobody would notice and we just slip the story out. That’s why we ended up with a terrible lead. The lead: there was a story no one wanted to hear.

Q: Kind of weak, isn’t it?

A: Very weak. Yeah. Very soft. We relented on that because we wanted to get the story out. In fact, there was one major newspaper, The Philadelphia Inquirer, which took our story and rewrote it the way I had written it originally.

I was the guy who wrote the story. And I was the guy who stood up most to the bosses. I dealt with them (then-President Louis D. Boccardi and then-Executive Editor William Ahearn) directly. I argued with them I got thrown out of the executive editor who threw me out of his office at one point because they were so embarrassed by themselves and by what they were doing. They didn’t want to talk about it. They didn’t want to hear about it. As I was leaving, I said, “You can’t cover up the My Lai massacre.” But I knew we would win because we were in the right. I was a former deputy managing editor and special correspondent. And I knew they wouldn’t dare try to fire me or do anything drastic.

Q: Was there any moment you would like to give it up?

A: No. No. Of course, we did compromise on the lead paragraph. But it didn’t damage the heart of the story. It didn’t damage the essence of the story. You know there was no compromise. It was either publish or not publish it, a pretty black and white thing.

I knew we would win. We had to win. It was an extremely difficult time. I had one friend at The AP whom I could confide in and who would figuratively pat me on the back and tell me I was right. But other people who should have been helping us, middle manager types, just disappeared. Once they realized that two top bosses (then-President Louis D. Boccardi and then-Executive Editor William Ahearn) wanted to kill the story, they would not argue on our behalf.

Q: Would you give some advice to young, aspiring journalists?

A: I’m hardly in a good position to advise anybody about how to go about becoming a journalist in today’s environment. I can only say that it’s a wonderful occupation. The standard advice today, of course, is learn all the media. In another word, learn to do video and take photos as well, still photos, etc. And be ready to do anything. I guess the conventional wisdom is that storytelling is evolving into a multimedia thing. And I suppose that may be true.

But still the very skill is to be able to write in an interesting and engaging way. Of course, find great stories. And really great ones come along pretty rarely. But when you get one, it’s very, very exciting.

Q: What is the bad side of journalism?

A: The hours are long and unpredictable, the work is hard, the pay is poor, and sometimes it's dangerous. But I suppose many of life's best occupations have the same “bad side.”

Q: How has journalism changed since you came into journalism?

A: Journalism has changed tremendously since I entered the field professionally in 1968. After all, I started on typewriters. And although we computerized steadily in

the 1970s at our home offices, I was still relying on the typewriter into the early 1980s in my international travels, before finally switching over to early versions of laptop computers. The digital age led to greater volume and speed in news reporting, greater access to remote areas via satellite communications, and eventually to on-line combinations of text, photos, video and audio that could not be imagined when I began my career. Essentially, of course, the mission is the same, to try to establish and report the facts of important events. But for me one of the greatest changes has been the ability to “show”' rather than simply “tell” the reader those facts, through on-line posting of documents, video interviews, links to authoritative online sources and the like. When used properly, this can give today's journalism much more credibility than in the past.

             Q: Have American newsrooms changed over the years? How? For better or worse?

A: I'll address simply the matter of personnel -- the journalists in the newsroom. In that regard, there are vastly more women in American journalism today than when I started more than 40 years ago. There are also more minority-group members, although that is not so noticeable. This, of course, is all for the better.

Q: What do you think of the state of American journalism today?

A: Most of my career, I have regretted what I've seen as the trivialization of American journalism, the growing focus on “celebrities,” unimportant “scandals,” sensational crimes and such. I think that grows worse every year. Today it's joined by another kind of trivialization, the treatment online, in blogs and other forms, of barely concealed opinion -- from whatever source -- as “journalism.” Related to that is the idea that “citizen journalism,” reporting by ordinary, untrained people online, is somehow legitimate journalism. There is still excellent print journalism in America, particularly in investigative reporting by The New York Times, the Washington Post and, at times, The AP. But unfortunately U.S. newspapers are declining, in number and in circulation, and I don't believe such non-newspaper initiatives as the investigative unit Pro Publica can make up for those losses.

Q: What do you think is the future of American journalism?

A: Despite the pessimism in that last answer, I believe that the U.S. is a country so diverse, educated, involved and interested that there will always be a demand for a basic level of good, relevant journalism. It's hard to see that emerging from the current online collection of outlets, but I suppose it may be found online someday as the best newspapers evolve into mainly Internet presences.

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